[Ham-80211] "Commodity Class Phased Array Antennas" for HSMM?
Gerry Creager N5JXS gerry.creager at tamu.eduSun Aug 1 22:49:12 UTC 2004
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David Young wrote: > On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 06:50:24AM -0500, Gerry Creager N5JXS wrote: > >>While the design of the antenna element only has to be done once, its >>implementation has to be done many times, as does the interconnect. The >>steering logic, which drives the elements in a manner to derive >>horizontal and vertical tilt, and gain, has to be designed and built. >>The phasing array or harness has to be fabricated. > > > I'm not sure what you mean by the interconnect. I cannot speak about > RF interconnects. However, for the control interconnecct, I think that > you could use a PC's audio output. I'm not kidding. Audio outputs move > voice coils all the time.... The interconnection I spoke of is the combination of stripline and transmission line that retains the characteristic impedence and introduces the appropriate phase delay to make these things steer. Since I couldn't see the images in the PPT (didn't get them, or OpenOffice didn't like 'em, don't know which) I couldn't completely evaluate the idea. If you're physically steering these things, I'm really confused. I think it'd be useful, though. > I am confident, as a "software guy," that the software problems are > tractable. The hardware problems look pretty tough to me. A software > feedback loop based on received signal strength could "train" the beam > onto the station that you want to talk to by moving the voice coil. The hardware part is tedious and potentially expensive because of element yield, but not particularly hard. > Regarding fabrication, my thinking is that you would download an "open > source" PCB design from the web and send it for manufacture. (Although, > there are electrical engineers who make PCBs at home.) You can buy a > 6"x6" piece of alumina for less than $20 on-line. I figure machining that > will be a pain, but it is nothing a determined HSMM hobbyist could not do. It may be beyond my machining capabilities:=) > BTW, the steering is horizontal only, although Kajiya tells how you could > do vertical tilt. Horizontal steering is perfectly adequate for a lot of > applications. For example, my main interest is in mitigating 2.4GHz > band interference while keeping a "mesh" neighborhood network connected. > You can steer the beam away from most interference with a horizontal rotation. Likely, with a little programming, you can train the system to steer toward the peak of the desired signal, or use the hueristics to optimize the desired and interfering signals... > Kajiya proposed to build a 4-sector system with one of these antennas > in each sector, but that requires RF switches. A 2-sector system might > just work, and no RF switches are necessary if you re-use the antenna > diversity switch. PIN diodes don't work too well at these frequencies, but switches are do-able. I'll try to find a working, non-infected Windows system this week and look at the site again, and try to understand his thoughts. If there'd been an e-mail add for him, I'd have already e-mailed Kajiya for some more detail... Gerry -- Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Network Engineering -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.847.8578 Page: 979.228.0173 Office: 903A Eller Bldg, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843
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