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[Ham-80211] Access control suggestions

Steven Phillips steven_phillips at yahoo.com
Thu Nov 4 21:33:32 UTC 2004

The reason for PHP is it's extreme flexibility between
platforms.  There are MANY ready to go PHP
applications on the freeware market that can handle
communcation needs.  It's just a matter of find one
that works best for what we want to accomplish. With
opensource software, we can design a front end that's
as simplistic as you want it to be.  I'm not trying to
create an "IT Department," just an all in one solution
that is easy to use.  If you look at the open source
market for voice over ip and video, the applications
are awkward at best to use (atleast in my opinion).

When it comes to the "customer" as you guys put it,
they all want one thing.  A means of communicating
information to and from disaster areas and shelters. 
Using a LAN/WAN type setup would greatly expedite the
passing of messagaes.  When I helped with the Hayman
fire, there were times I spent 10 to 15 minutes
walking around trying to locate someone to relay a
--- "Eric S. Johansson" <esj at harvee.org> wrote:

> dubose at texas.net wrote:
> >>If we want this to work then here's a course of
> action
> >>that I think would be a good starting point.
> >>
> >>1 - Forget about which of the regulations to
> operate
> >>under.
> >>
> >>2 - Devlope a "backbone" to the system.  This
> would
> >>consist of central servers located at central
> command
> >>centers.  In the event of Red Cross activities, a
> good
> >>location would be the local Red Cross HQ.
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > Your assumption is that the Red Cross is the HQ of
> emergency communications and
> > disaster plans.  However, while this might have
> been true a number of years ago,
> > today the Red Cross is a user of ARES/ham
> emergency communications just as are
> > local governments and other disaster relief
> organizations.  One should work with
> > the local emergency manager to see what emergency
> communications are needed.
> I just want to second what Walters saying here. 
> Look at what your 
> customer needs to new and build from there.  I
> cannot guarantee you, it 
> will not involve anything even vaguely resembling an
> IT department. 
> they need systems that can be set up and operated by
> any fumble fingered 
> fireman or policeman.  do you think it's by accident
> that many police 
> and fire radios are have virtually no controls? 
> When they are in the 
> middle of the disaster, they are not thinking
> anything about their radio 
> except as a tool to help them communicate.  The same
> should be true 
> about our infrastructure.  It's a tool to help our
> customer get the job 
> done.  Nothing more, nothing less.  If it starts
> serving our egos, we 
> lose and lose big-time.
> so Web servers and php and other little IT toys
> designed to keep admins 
> employed really don't serve the needs of our
> customers.  talk to your 
> emergency management folks can find out what they
> really need.  It's the 
> only way to move forward.
> ---eric
> -- 
> George Bush makes me long for the honesty of Richard
> Nixon
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