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Drew Baxter droobie at maine.rr.com
Fri Nov 5 17:01:46 UTC 2004

BPL isn't a negotiable situation where people can just decide to 'share' 
the frequency.  A chunk of property at 2.4ghz is less of significance than 
the people that are trying to do low-power work on the 2-80mhz HF 
chunk.  The signal goes a lot further and penetrates a lot more places in 
the HF than up in microwave allocations.  It's probably still relatively 
easy to find 80mhz of continuous bandwidth up in the microwave allocations 
too.  That 2-80mhz spectrum is prime real-estate for transcontinental 
communications.  I don't think residential Internet needs it, and it's a 
bad use of spectrum.

I think WIFI and MANs in the upper allocations are the way to get fast 
network access to rural areas.  As a matter of fact, I'd love some 
free-for-all high speed wireless solutions in the 900mhz.  There has been a 
long issue of obstructions preventing network access for everyone.  This 
would be a proper way to give the public more options.

I think these people experimenting with WIFI hardware will perhaps have 
interest in becoming ham operators and exploring radio technology outside 
the scope of off-the-shelf solutions.  The 'free for all' should have 
limits, however, and realism should be weighed.  I don't think the current 
wave of the FCC has much interest in the public and would sell every single 
allocation if they could.

The frequency use has to match the job you're trying to accomplish.  2.4ghz 
and 900mhz largely works because it permits cohabitation because of small 
directional footprints as well as more available continuous spectrum 
chunks.  Stuffing these things on far-reaching frequency allocations is not 
the solution, it's the start of a problem.

Just my thoughts.

--Droo, K1XVM

At 09:04 AM 11/5/2004, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brian Webster" <bwebster at wirelessmapping.com>
>To: "Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization" <wireless at wispa.org>
>Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 5:27 AM
>Subject: RE: [WISPA] Fw: [Ham-80211] Access control suggestions
> > Marlon,
> > The problem with most hams is that they don't have any clue how much
> > spectrum is worth these days and the pressures of commercial demand for
> > spectrum. Having been in the commercial wireless industry for or 15 years,
> > have been beating my head against the wall trying to convince my fellow
> > that the FCC will always make their decisions based on the benefit of the
> > most Americans they are supposed to represent. The BPL situation is a
> > perfect example. Hams have a lot of spectrum and don't create any jobs or
> > tax revenue with it. Slowly the ham radio community demographics are
> > changing and you should see an ability for them to co-exist with other
> > services once all the olds ideas and notions fade away.
> > My personal option is you open all the spectrum up for a free for all and
> > just give different services a time slot instead......between frequency
> > hopping and/or spread spectrum things could be used much more efficiently.
> > But that would negate the ability for the government to create auctions
> > sell the laws of physics. This in my opinion is why software defined
> > are being fought. Think of the idea of a carriers spectrum being made
> > instantly worthless because a SDR radio can just hop anywhere to open
> > frequencies in any mode. I can't wait for those days. Ok off my soapbox
> > :-)
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Brian Webster N2KGC
> > 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
> > Cooperstown, NY 13326
> > www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
> >
> > (607) 286-3465 Home
> > (607) 435-3988 Mobile
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