[Ham-80211] Re: 802.16e?

Wed Apr 13 17:29:11 UTC 2005

I've recently been playing with Solectek hardware that's claiming to be 
WiMAX stuff, in the 5.7 GHz band.  We're achieving 36 Mb/s over a 3 mile 
(LOS) path, and are playing with 3-10 mile NLOS paths now.  Most of the 
work's, so far, Part 15, but there's some Part 97 play afoot.  Note that 
the Solectek hardware is solely deployed in Part 15 segments... that 
happen to overlap our allocations...

Yeah, that's not a typo:  36-72 Mb/sec.

gerry

Bill Diaz wrote:
> Gerry,
>   I understand there are quite a few Navini systems in the US.  Navini
> claims to provide Non-Line-Of-Site paths.  There is one in Morris,IL
> operating on 2.4Ghz (part 15).  This system uses some type of electronically
> steerable array to optimize the path to each client.  Don't recall exactly,
> but they claim throughput around 1mbs. NLOS range is somewhat limited,
> around 2-3 miles if I recall correctly.  BTW, this system was installed
> about 18 months ago.  Newer Navini systems may use a different protocol. 
> 
> Motorola now offers what they claim is a migration path to Wi-Max, though it
> is still presently part15.  I have 5.7Ghz and 900Mhz systems running
> Motorola Canopy Advantage radios.  Throughput on the 5.7 Advantage system
> can be as high as 7mbs up and down, though the highest I have been able to
> achieve is 6mbs up and down.  Bandwidth decreases with range but you can
> still expect a minimum of about 2mbs up and down out to about 10 miles on
> 5.7ghz.  The 900Mhz Advantage radios can operate over NLOS paths, kinda.  In
> highly RF congested areas you may get up to 3 miles and throughputs as high
> as 2mbs down and 1 mbs up.  Horizontal polarization is needed to provide
> additional interference protection from the multitude of other stations on
> these frequencies.  The Canopy systems are point to multipoint systems.  We
> have tried operating mobile with the 900Mhz system, with little success.  
> 
> With the new technologies coming on line, some of the older commericial
> equipment will be rendered obsolete.  This surplus equipment may be ideal
> for Ham usage but will still be low power etc.  It will work just fine for
> point-to-point hops or portable multipoint systems for special events.
> 
> Bill KC9XG
> 
>  
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ham-80211-bounces at lists.tapr.org 
>>[mailto:ham-80211-bounces at lists.tapr.org] On Behalf Of Gerry 
>>Creager N5JXS
>>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 09:14
>>To: TAPR Mailing List for Ham Radio Use of 802.11
>>Subject: Re: [Ham-80211] Re: 802.16e?
>>
>>
>>Navini has at least one US user, in South Texas.  They have 2.4 GHz 
>>(Part 15) and 2.6 GHz MMDS (licensed) systems.  Data rates are pretty 
>>puny, but more'n adequate, I suspect, for most ham applications.
>>
>>gerry
>>
>>Steve wrote:
>>
>>>Found out the manufacture...it looks like a http://www.navini.com/  
>>>system. ( picture looks like their modem )
>>>The company distributing the service is http://www.unwired.com.au/
>>>
>>>Thanks Darryl !
>>>
>>>Steve N0FPF
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>>>From: "Bill Vodall" <wa7nwp at jnos.org>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I agree it may be an opportunity, though you'll find a 
>>
>>challenge 
>>
>>>>importing
>>>>
>>>>>>non-type-accepted equipment in other than your suitcase.
>>>>>
>>>>>Interesting issue...   As long as it's commerical 
>>
>>equipment for amateur
>>
>>>>>operation, won't we be faced with just the incidental 
>>
>>emmisions type 
>>
>>>>acceptance
>>>>
>>>>>that any commercial ham transceiver or even computerized receiver 
>>>>
>>>>has to
>>>>
>>>>>comply with.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's my understanding that 'foreign' standards, at least European 
>>>>
>>>>ones, for
>>>>
>>>>>incidental emissions from equipment is stricter then U.S. 
>>>>
>>>>standards...  I
>>>>
>>>>>wonder how all that plays out.   It certainly won't be worth the 
>>>>
>>>>effort for
>>>>
>>>>>a non-US manufactor to invest much in compliance 
>>
>>certification for the
>>
>>>>>"booming" US Amateur market.
>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe it's time to check the thrift stores for bigger suitcases.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
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