From 4donhamrick at gmail.com Sun Aug 13 17:08:20 2006 From: 4donhamrick at gmail.com (American Common Defence Review) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 13:08:20 -0400 Subject: [Ham-80211] Which PDA to buy as a WiFi Finder? Message-ID: <848e72f50608131008r2fa0caebrfab1ac65ac58c2ca@mail.gmail.com> From Don Hamrick/KI5SS, Ok! I am a newbie with PDAs. Never owned one and didn't know much about them. Now I am doing a fast study on PDAs to find out which PDA is best to use as a WiFi Finder as its primary use and for other applications such as Amateur Radio as cascading into its secondary use, if feasible. My marketing research revealed the following products that fits the bill for what am looking for. I am a merchant seaman. I travel constantly. I want to use a PDA as a WiFi Finder so that I don't have to pull out my laptop from its wheeled-bag every time just to check for WiFi availability. It is easier to use a PDA for this purpose. *SDIO CARDS:* *Socket Go Wi-Fi!? P500 - 802.11g SDIO Wi-Fi Card* http://www.socketcom.com/product/WL6010-676.asp *Socket Go Wi-Fi!? P300 - 802.11g SDIO Wi-Fi Card* http://www.socketcom.com/product/WL6217-664.asp ** *Linksys Wireless-G Compact Flash Card, WCF54G* http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115416826419&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper *WiFi Software* *PocketWinc* (PDA WiFi Finder & Connectivity Software) http://downloads.zdnet.com/download.aspx?&kw=pocketwinc&docid=206391 *Winc* (Laptop Wifi Finder & Connectivity Software) http://downloads.zdnet.com/download.aspx?&kw=winc&docid=206392 I downloaded Winc and installed it. Instantly it became my default WiFi Connect Utility over Windows barebones utility in the System Tray. I was impressed with its intuitiveness and ease of use. *PDA* Looking for a PDA ($300 TO $600 price range) with 802.11g capability so that I do not have to buy an SDIO card listed above since the majority of PDAs have 802.11b. *NEXT EDUCATIONAL PHASE: Amateur Radio and 802.11b/g Applications* ** How is Amateur Radio applied to 802.11b or 802.11g services? APRS? PACKET? Other? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.tapr.org/pipermail/ham-80211/attachments/20060813/29f18929/attachment.htm From rik at ticnet.com Sun Aug 13 17:18:04 2006 From: rik at ticnet.com (Rik) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 12:18:04 -0500 Subject: [Ham-80211] Which PDA to buy as a WiFi Finder? In-Reply-To: <848e72f50608131008r2fa0caebrfab1ac65ac58c2ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The Siemens SX66 has it all. My only problem with it is that I can't do a dial-up data call to my personal ISP. Gotta use Cingular's data service. -Rik. K4TTT-TV _____ From: ham-80211-bounces at lists.tapr.org [mailto:ham-80211-bounces at lists.tapr.org] On Behalf Of American Common Defence Review Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:08 PM To: ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org Subject: [Ham-80211] Which PDA to buy as a WiFi Finder? >From Don Hamrick/KI5SS, Ok! I am a newbie with PDAs. Never owned one and didn't know much about them. Now I am doing a fast study on PDAs to find out which PDA is best to use as a WiFi Finder as its primary use and for other applications such as Amateur Radio as cascading into its secondary use, if feasible. My marketing research revealed the following products that fits the bill for what am looking for. I am a merchant seaman. I travel constantly. I want to use a PDA as a WiFi Finder so that I don't have to pull out my laptop from its wheeled-bag every time just to check for WiFi availability. It is easier to use a PDA for this purpose. SDIO CARDS: Socket Go Wi-Fi!T P500 - 802.11g SDIO Wi-Fi Card http://www.socketcom.com/product/WL6010-676.asp Socket Go Wi-Fi!T P300 - 802.11g SDIO Wi-Fi Card http://www.socketcom.com/product/WL6217-664.asp Linksys Wireless-G Compact Flash Card, WCF54G http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2 &childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115416826419&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVis itorWrapper WiFi Software PocketWinc (PDA WiFi Finder & Connectivity Software) http://downloads.zdnet.com/download.aspx? &kw=pocketwinc&docid=206391 Winc (Laptop Wifi Finder & Connectivity Software) http://downloads.zdnet.com/download.aspx? &kw=winc&docid=206392 I downloaded Winc and installed it. Instantly it became my default WiFi Connect Utility over Windows barebones utility in the System Tray. I was impressed with its intuitiveness and ease of use. PDA Looking for a PDA ($300 TO $600 price range) with 802.11g capability so that I do not have to buy an SDIO card listed above since the majority of PDAs have 802.11b. NEXT EDUCATIONAL PHASE: Amateur Radio and 802.11b/g Applications How is Amateur Radio applied to 802.11b or 802.11g services? APRS? PACKET? Other? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.tapr.org/pipermail/ham-80211/attachments/20060813/6e940e85/attachment.htm From rich at osman.com Sun Aug 13 17:26:37 2006 From: rich at osman.com (Rich Osman) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 12:26:37 -0500 Subject: [Ham-80211] Which PDA to buy as a WiFi Finder? In-Reply-To: <848e72f50608131008r2fa0caebrfab1ac65ac58c2ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <848e72f50608131008r2fa0caebrfab1ac65ac58c2ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44DF60CD.9060105@osman.com> American Common Defence Review wrote: > From Don Hamrick/KI5SS, > > Ok! I am a newbie with PDAs. Never owned one and didn't know much > about them. Now I am doing a fast study on PDAs to find out which PDA > is best to use as a WiFi Finder as its primary use and for other > applications such as Amateur Radio as cascading into its secondary > use, if feasible. My marketing research revealed the following > products that fits the bill for what am looking for. > > I am a merchant seaman. I travel constantly. I want to use a PDA as a > WiFi Finder so that I don't have to pull out my laptop from its > wheeled-bag every time just to check for WiFi availability. It is > easier to use a PDA for this purpose. > *Somebody, Dlink I think, makes a USB 2.0 wifi dongle that has an internal battery and an LCD display. It acts as a wifinder, lets you select a network and test for a route to the net. You can just plug it in ready to go in your laptop. Of course a PDA will let you pop mail and other stuff, but it will be 2X the size of this gizzy.* -- mailto:Rich at Osman.com http://www.rich.osman.com Rich Osman; POB 93167; Southlake, TX 76092 (Near DFW Airport) ARS: N1OZ If you receive something that says "Send this to everyone you know," PLEASE pretend you don't know me. From gerry.creager at tamu.edu Mon Aug 14 04:06:03 2006 From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager N5JXS) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:06:03 -0500 Subject: [Ham-80211] Which PDA to buy as a WiFi Finder? In-Reply-To: <848e72f50608131008r2fa0caebrfab1ac65ac58c2ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <848e72f50608131008r2fa0caebrfab1ac65ac58c2ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44DFF6AB.5010202@tamu.edu> Easiest way I know, out of the box, is a Toshiba E740. See if you can find one used, and get it. It does a stellar job of sniffing access points, and telling you what the signal strength and ESSID are. It'll also tell you if the AP is using one of the encryption protocols, but not which one, nor what the key is. gerry American Common Defence Review wrote: > From Don Hamrick/KI5SS, > > Ok! I am a newbie with PDAs. Never owned one and didn't know much about > them. Now I am doing a fast study on PDAs to find out which PDA is best > to use as a WiFi Finder as its primary use and for other applications > such as Amateur Radio as cascading into its secondary use, if feasible. > My marketing research revealed the following products that fits the bill > for what am looking for. > > I am a merchant seaman. I travel constantly. I want to use a PDA as a > WiFi Finder so that I don't have to pull out my laptop from its > wheeled-bag every time just to check for WiFi availability. It is easier > to use a PDA for this purpose. > > *SDIO CARDS:* > > *Socket Go Wi-Fi!? P500 - 802.11g SDIO Wi-Fi Card* > http://www.socketcom.com/product/WL6010-676.asp > > *Socket Go Wi-Fi!? P300 - 802.11g SDIO Wi-Fi Card* > http://www.socketcom.com/product/WL6217-664.asp > ** > *Linksys Wireless-G Compact Flash Card, WCF54G* > http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115416826419&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper > > > *WiFi Software* > > *PocketWinc* (PDA WiFi Finder & Connectivity Software) > http://downloads.zdnet.com/download.aspx?&kw=pocketwinc&docid=206391 > > > *Winc* (Laptop Wifi Finder & Connectivity Software) > http://downloads.zdnet.com/download.aspx?&kw=winc&docid=206392 > > I downloaded Winc and installed it. Instantly it became my default WiFi > Connect Utility over Windows barebones utility in the System Tray. I was > impressed with its intuitiveness and ease of use. > > > *PDA* > > Looking for a PDA ($300 TO $600 price range) with 802.11g capability so > that I do not have to buy an SDIO card listed above since the majority > of PDAs have 802.11b. > > *NEXT EDUCATIONAL PHASE: Amateur Radio and 802.11b/g Applications* > ** > How is Amateur Radio applied to 802.11b or 802.11g services? > > APRS? PACKET? Other? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ham-80211 mailing list > ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org > https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211 -- Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 From ooe at odessaoffice.com Mon Aug 14 15:48:46 2006 From: ooe at odessaoffice.com (Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 08:48:46 -0700 Subject: [Ham-80211] Which PDA to buy as a WiFi Finder? References: <848e72f50608131008r2fa0caebrfab1ac65ac58c2ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004901c6bfb9$21002370$09ba9240@marlon> I don't know if it'll work on a pda but this program is very helpful. I use it quite a bit. Won't show non wifi systems, but it sounds like that's all you need it to do. Best one out there. Most wireless ISPs I know use it. http://www.netstumbler.com/ Anyone out there have any suggestions for Don? Remember to reply to his personal address as you'll not be able to reply to the mailing list his post came from. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services 42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam ----- Original Message ----- From: American Common Defence Review To: ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 10:08 AM Subject: [Ham-80211] Which PDA to buy as a WiFi Finder? From Don Hamrick/KI5SS, Ok! I am a newbie with PDAs. Never owned one and didn't know much about them. Now I am doing a fast study on PDAs to find out which PDA is best to use as a WiFi Finder as its primary use and for other applications such as Amateur Radio as cascading into its secondary use, if feasible. My marketing research revealed the following products that fits the bill for what am looking for. I am a merchant seaman. I travel constantly. I want to use a PDA as a WiFi Finder so that I don't have to pull out my laptop from its wheeled-bag every time just to check for WiFi availability. It is easier to use a PDA for this purpose. SDIO CARDS: Socket Go Wi-Fi!? P500 - 802.11g SDIO Wi-Fi Card http://www.socketcom.com/product/WL6010-676.asp Socket Go Wi-Fi!? P300 - 802.11g SDIO Wi-Fi Card http://www.socketcom.com/product/WL6217-664.asp Linksys Wireless-G Compact Flash Card, WCF54G http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115416826419&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper WiFi Software PocketWinc (PDA WiFi Finder & Connectivity Software) http://downloads.zdnet.com/download.aspx?&kw=pocketwinc&docid=206391 Winc (Laptop Wifi Finder & Connectivity Software) http://downloads.zdnet.com/download.aspx?&kw=winc&docid=206392 I downloaded Winc and installed it. Instantly it became my default WiFi Connect Utility over Windows barebones utility in the System Tray. I was impressed with its intuitiveness and ease of use. PDA Looking for a PDA ($300 TO $600 price range) with 802.11g capability so that I do not have to buy an SDIO card listed above since the majority of PDAs have 802.11b. NEXT EDUCATIONAL PHASE: Amateur Radio and 802.11b/g Applications How is Amateur Radio applied to 802.11b or 802.11g services? APRS? PACKET? Other? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ ham-80211 mailing list ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.tapr.org/pipermail/ham-80211/attachments/20060814/5348e0dd/attachment.htm From jeff at aerodata.net Mon Aug 14 15:52:51 2006 From: jeff at aerodata.net (jeff at aerodata.net) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:52:51 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Ham-80211] Which PDA to buy as a WiFi Finder? In-Reply-To: <004901c6bfb9$21002370$09ba9240@marlon> References: <848e72f50608131008r2fa0caebrfab1ac65ac58c2ca@mail.gmail.com> <004901c6bfb9$21002370$09ba9240@marlon> Message-ID: <57981.65.206.129.86.1155570771.squirrel@www.aerodata.net> Hi Marlon: Yeap, it will work on a PDA and that is what I use. They call it mini-stumbler but it is similar to netstumbler. PDA I use is a Dell Axim... forgot the model number. > I don't know if it'll work on a pda but this program is very helpful. I > use it quite a bit. Won't show non wifi systems, but it sounds like > that's all you need it to do. Best one out there. Most wireless ISPs I > know use it. > http://www.netstumbler.com/ > > Anyone out there have any suggestions for Don? Remember to reply to his > personal address as you'll not be able to reply to the mailing list his > post came from. > > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services > 42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp! > 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: American Common Defence Review > To: ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 10:08 AM > Subject: [Ham-80211] Which PDA to buy as a WiFi Finder? > > > From Don Hamrick/KI5SS, > > Ok! I am a newbie with PDAs. Never owned one and didn't know much about > them. Now I am doing a fast study on PDAs to find out which PDA is best > to use as a WiFi Finder as its primary use and for other applications > such as Amateur Radio as cascading into its secondary use, if feasible. > My marketing research revealed the following products that fits the bill > for what am looking for. > > I am a merchant seaman. I travel constantly. I want to use a PDA as a > WiFi Finder so that I don't have to pull out my laptop from its > wheeled-bag every time just to check for WiFi availability. It is easier > to use a PDA for this purpose. > > SDIO CARDS: > > Socket Go Wi-Fi!??? P500 - 802.11g SDIO Wi-Fi Card > http://www.socketcom.com/product/WL6010-676.asp > > Socket Go Wi-Fi!??? P300 - 802.11g SDIO Wi-Fi Card > http://www.socketcom.com/product/WL6217-664.asp > > Linksys Wireless-G Compact Flash Card, WCF54G > http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115416826419&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper > > WiFi Software > > PocketWinc (PDA WiFi Finder & Connectivity Software) > http://downloads.zdnet.com/download.aspx?&kw=pocketwinc&docid=206391 > > Winc (Laptop Wifi Finder & Connectivity Software) > http://downloads.zdnet.com/download.aspx?&kw=winc&docid=206392 > I downloaded Winc and installed it. Instantly it became my default WiFi > Connect Utility over Windows barebones utility in the System Tray. I was > impressed with its intuitiveness and ease of use. > > > PDA > > Looking for a PDA ($300 TO $600 price range) with 802.11g capability so > that I do not have to buy an SDIO card listed above since the majority > of PDAs have 802.11b. > > NEXT EDUCATIONAL PHASE: Amateur Radio and 802.11b/g Applications > > How is Amateur Radio applied to 802.11b or 802.11g services? > > APRS? PACKET? Other? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > ham-80211 mailing list > ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org > https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211 > _______________________________________________ > ham-80211 mailing list > ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org > https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211 > From rwf at bsrg.org Mon Aug 14 16:16:50 2006 From: rwf at bsrg.org (Ralph Fowler) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:16:50 -0600 Subject: [Ham-80211] Which PDA to buy as a WiFi Finder? In-Reply-To: <57981.65.206.129.86.1155570771.squirrel@www.aerodata.net> Message-ID: <200608141616.k7EGGd0l020782@main.bsrg.org> Cingular 8125 (also sold by Verizon, Tmobile (as the MDA) and Sprint): Phone, PDA, WiFi, Bluetooth. No Dongle needed! Awesome. Use Wi Fi Fo Fum because it works like Kismet and detects hidden Aps that don't respond to broadcast pings. Mini Stumbler has to associate before it will show one up. Can't associate if it isn't "open". That's the combination I use and I carry one device for all! N4NEQ From kc2mmi at verizon.net Mon Aug 14 16:11:36 2006 From: kc2mmi at verizon.net (KC2MMI (Jared)) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:11:36 -0400 Subject: [Ham-80211] WiFi Finder References: Message-ID: <003b01c6bfbf$075cf870$0225c1d8@armada> Don, surely you jest? Spend $25-30 on a keyfob-sized WiFi finder and hang that on your belt or computer case. Then spend $500 on whatever PDA makes the best PDA for your needs. Every time you hold a PDA you put $500 and all your data at risk just by dropping it or having it grabbed out of your hands. Doing that just to see if there's WiFi around before you bother pulling out your computer, seems kinda pointless. From jdv at iglou.com Mon Aug 14 18:22:54 2006 From: jdv at iglou.com (John Vause) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:22:54 -0400 Subject: [Ham-80211] Which PDA to buy as a WiFi Finder? In-Reply-To: <848e72f50608131008r2fa0caebrfab1ac65ac58c2ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <848e72f50608131008r2fa0caebrfab1ac65ac58c2ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44E0BF7E.8090304@iglou.com> I use a Sharp Zaurus PDA (it runs a linux os) and Kismet when I go "warwalking". In a pinch, it can take the place of my laptop. If one of your ports of call is in Japan you should have no problem locating one. American Common Defence Review wrote: > From Don Hamrick/KI5SS, > > Ok! I am a newbie with PDAs. Never owned one and didn't know much about > them. Now I am doing a fast study on PDAs to find out which PDA is best > to use as a WiFi Finder as its primary use and for other applications > such as Amateur Radio as cascading into its secondary use, if feasible. > My marketing research revealed the following products that fits the bill > for what am looking for. > > I am a merchant seaman. I travel constantly. I want to use a PDA as a > WiFi Finder so that I don't have to pull out my laptop from its > wheeled-bag every time just to check for WiFi availability. It is easier > to use a PDA for this purpose. > > *SDIO CARDS:* > > *Socket Go Wi-Fi!? P500 - 802.11g SDIO Wi-Fi Card* > http://www.socketcom.com/product/WL6010-676.asp > > *Socket Go Wi-Fi!? P300 - 802.11g SDIO Wi-Fi Card* > http://www.socketcom.com/product/WL6217-664.asp > ** > *Linksys Wireless-G Compact Flash Card, WCF54G* > http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115416826419&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper > > > *WiFi Software* > > *PocketWinc* (PDA WiFi Finder & Connectivity Software) > http://downloads.zdnet.com/download.aspx?&kw=pocketwinc&docid=206391 > > > *Winc* (Laptop Wifi Finder & Connectivity Software) > http://downloads.zdnet.com/download.aspx?&kw=winc&docid=206392 > > I downloaded Winc and installed it. Instantly it became my default WiFi > Connect Utility over Windows barebones utility in the System Tray. I was > impressed with its intuitiveness and ease of use. > > > *PDA* > > Looking for a PDA ($300 TO $600 price range) with 802.11g capability so > that I do not have to buy an SDIO card listed above since the majority > of PDAs have 802.11b. > > *NEXT EDUCATIONAL PHASE: Amateur Radio and 802.11b/g Applications* > ** > How is Amateur Radio applied to 802.11b or 802.11g services? > > APRS? PACKET? Other? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ham-80211 mailing list > ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org > https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.9/417 - Release Date: 8/11/2006 -- * John Vause jdv at iglou_dot_com * * NOTE: email address altered for benefit of Spambots * * My favorite law: The Law of Unintended Consequences * * -- John Vause * * "In certain public indecencies the difference * * between a dog & a Frenchman is not perceptible." * * -- Mark Twain * * Si vis pacem, para bellum - Cicero * -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.9/417 - Release Date: 8/11/2006 From 4donhamrick at gmail.com Tue Aug 15 16:59:17 2006 From: 4donhamrick at gmail.com (American Common Defence Review) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:59:17 -0500 Subject: [Ham-80211] FOLLOW UP: Which PDA to buy as a WiFi Finder? Message-ID: <848e72f50608150959s47d1aab4s2fbeeca0e9c378e4@mail.gmail.com> KC2MMI \(Jared\)" Don, surely you jest? Spend $25-30 on a keyfob-sized WiFi finder and hang that on your belt or computer case. Then spend $500 on whatever PDA makes the best PDA for your needs. Every time you hold a PDA you put $500 and all your data at risk just by dropping it or having it grabbed out of your hands. Doing that just to see if there's WiFi around before you bother pulling out your computer, seems kinda pointless. ROFLMAO! I did spend $25 on the Kensington WiFi Finder keyfob. It was completely unreliable and useless for my needs. I am a U.S. merchant seaman and I travel constantly around the U.S. and around the world. I needed a convenient method to finding WiFi hotspots without pulling out and setting up my laptop everytime on speculation. There is also the intrinsic purpose of the PDA for business and recreational applications. So, a $500 PDF WiFi finder is not pointless. Using a $500 PDA as a WiFi Finder is a bonus feature to its intended purpose. Mike Delp mdelp at wisperisp.com Ipaq 3900 series with an expansion sleeve that holds PCMCIA cards; mini-stumbler (PocketPC version of netstumbler); a prism card is 200mw, and a 19db panel antenna kicks it. Paul Hendry paul.hendry at skyline-networks.com Nokia E70. Is a mobile + VoIP + wifi + runs Symbian which has a couple of stumbler type programs. I have one and it means with a PuTTy for Symbian I can look after my network no matter where I am ;) Marlon K. Schafer Don't know if it'll work on a pda but this program is very helpful. I use it quite a bit. Won't show non wifi systems, but it sounds like that's all you need it to do. Best one out there. Most wireless ISPs I know use it. http://www.netstumbler.com/ jeff at aerodata.net Hi Marlon: Yeap, it will work on a PDA and that is what I use. They call it mini-stumbler but it is similar to netstumbler. PDA I use is a Dell Axim... forgot the model number. "Ralph Fowler" Cingular 8125 (also sold by Verizon, Tmobile (as the MDA) and Sprint): Phone, PDA, WiFi, Bluetooth. No Dongle needed! Awesome. Use Wi Fi Fo Fum because it works like Kismet and detects hidden Aps that don't respond to broadcast pings. Mini Stumbler has to associate before it will show one up. Can't associate if it isn't "open". That's the combination I use and I carry one device for all! I was on a Greyhound trip from Norfolk, Virginia to Arkansas when I posted my inquiry. I my internet seach, compare and availability I bought the HP hx2795b Pocket PC. http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?storeName=storefronts&landing=handhelds&category=handhelds&orderflow=1&product_code=FA676B%23ABA&catLevel=1 *WiFi Software* *Winc (Laptop Wifi Finder & Connectivity Software)* http://downloads.zdnet.com/download.aspx?&kw=winc&docid=206392 Because I had already downloaded Winc and installed I went ahead and installed PocketWinc on the HP hx2795b Pocket PC PDA. * PocketWinc* (PDA WiFi Finder & Connectivity Software) http://downloads.zdnet.com/download.aspx?&kw=pocketwinc&docid=206391 I will check out NetStumbler and Mini-NetStumbler and compare them with Winc and PocketWinc to see which is better with their features. My next step is to buy the Linksys WCF54G so that I can use the PDA as a WiFi Finder for 802.11g WiFi HotSpots so that I can breakout my laptop to get on the Internet when I travel. *Linksys Wireless-G Compact Flash Card, WCF54G* http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115416826419&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper Thank you for your help. My next curiosity question is Amateur Radio use of 802.11b and 802.11g WiFi connections. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.tapr.org/pipermail/ham-80211/attachments/20060815/bbf260d0/attachment.htm From kg6jve at gmail.com Tue Aug 15 21:09:08 2006 From: kg6jve at gmail.com (Frank Keeney) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:09:08 -0700 Subject: [Ham-80211] Which PDA to buy as a WiFi Finder? In-Reply-To: <200608141616.k7EGGd0l020782@main.bsrg.org> Message-ID: <028e01c6c0af$0d702160$64201eac@bigpc> Ditto on WiFiFoFum, this is what I use. I did a little review of the T-Mobile MDA PDA with some mobile wireless software recommendations: http://www.unwiredadventures.com/unwire/2006/06/ultimate_pda_se.html I do find that WiFiFoFum is a cpu hog on the MDA. Frank KG6JVE > -----Original Message----- > On Behalf Of Ralph Fowler > > Cingular 8125 (also sold by Verizon, Tmobile (as the MDA) > and Sprint): > Phone, PDA, WiFi, Bluetooth. No Dongle needed! Awesome. > Use Wi Fi Fo Fum because it works like Kismet and detects > hidden Aps that > don't respond to broadcast pings. Mini Stumbler has to > associate before it > will show one up. Can't associate if it isn't "open". > > That's the combination I use and I carry one device for all! > > > N4NEQ From kb9mwr at yahoo.com Thu Aug 17 21:49:33 2006 From: kb9mwr at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:49:33 -0500 Subject: [Ham-80211] Interesting use Message-ID: <000901c6c247$082e0ca0$6501a8c0@PB4UGO2BED> A few locals have been laying with a derivative of Asterisk called Trixbox... which is basically an open source PBX . (And Trixbox is a web front end for Asterisk) I have a Zyxel wifi phone and have been looking into possible two-way radio integration: http://www.allstarlink.org/ And if nothing else, since that route seems expensive, a simple FXS interface to an under used autopatch could be interesting. Asterisk is some very powerful stuff, perfect anyone who is familiar with Linux and likes to tinker. What's neat is when you add a WiFi phone to the mix, it's has the potential as 2.4 GHz digital voice ham radio. From rwf at bsrg.org Fri Aug 18 01:52:24 2006 From: rwf at bsrg.org (Ralph Fowler) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:52:24 -0400 Subject: [Ham-80211] Interesting use In-Reply-To: <000901c6c247$082e0ca0$6501a8c0@PB4UGO2BED> Message-ID: <200608180152.k7I1qoBK007646@main.bsrg.org> There is an add in that makes Asterisk a repeater controller and linking system. -----Original Message----- From: ham-80211-bounces at lists.tapr.org [mailto:ham-80211-bounces at lists.tapr.org] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 5:50 PM To: ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org Subject: [Ham-80211] Interesting use A few locals have been laying with a derivative of Asterisk called Trixbox... which is basically an open source PBX . (And Trixbox is a web front end for Asterisk) I have a Zyxel wifi phone and have been looking into possible two-way radio integration: http://www.allstarlink.org/ And if nothing else, since that route seems expensive, a simple FXS interface to an under used autopatch could be interesting. Asterisk is some very powerful stuff, perfect anyone who is familiar with Linux and likes to tinker. What's neat is when you add a WiFi phone to the mix, it's has the potential as 2.4 GHz digital voice ham radio. From stephen.brown75 at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 06:02:34 2006 From: stephen.brown75 at gmail.com (Stephen Brown Jr) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 02:02:34 -0400 Subject: [Ham-80211] Interesting use In-Reply-To: <200608180152.k7I1qoBK007646@main.bsrg.org> References: <000901c6c247$082e0ca0$6501a8c0@PB4UGO2BED> <200608180152.k7I1qoBK007646@main.bsrg.org> Message-ID: Interesting as I was thinking of sometime back as to how I could tie Asterisk and ham radio together, this seems to be a potential solution. I am a big advocate of Asterisk myself. On 8/17/06, Ralph Fowler wrote: > > There is an add in that makes Asterisk a repeater controller and linking > system. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ham-80211-bounces at lists.tapr.org > [mailto:ham-80211-bounces at lists.tapr.org] On Behalf Of Steve > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 5:50 PM > To: ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org > Subject: [Ham-80211] Interesting use > > A few locals have been laying with a derivative of Asterisk called > Trixbox... which is basically an open source PBX . (And Trixbox is a web > front end for Asterisk) I have a Zyxel wifi phone and have been looking > into possible two-way radio integration: > http://www.allstarlink.org/ And if nothing else, since that route seems > expensive, a simple FXS interface to an under used autopatch could be > interesting. > > Asterisk is some very powerful stuff, perfect anyone who is familiar with > Linux and likes to tinker. What's neat is when you add a WiFi phone to > the > mix, it's has the potential as 2.4 GHz digital voice ham radio. > > > _______________________________________________ > ham-80211 mailing list > ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org > https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.tapr.org/pipermail/ham-80211/attachments/20060818/a2a32b2d/attachment.htm From rwf at bsrg.org Fri Aug 18 18:24:55 2006 From: rwf at bsrg.org (Ralph Fowler) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:24:55 -0400 Subject: [Ham-80211] Interesting use In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200608181825.k7IIPH1E018581@main.bsrg.org> The group who comes to mind using this is the Allstar Link (star meaning * in this case) There is lots of info on their home page at http://www.allstarlink.org/ Ralph _____ From: ham-80211-bounces at lists.tapr.org [mailto:ham-80211-bounces at lists.tapr.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Brown Jr Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 2:03 AM To: TAPR Mailing List for Ham Radio Use of 802.11 Subject: Re: [Ham-80211] Interesting use Interesting as I was thinking of sometime back as to how I could tie Asterisk and ham radio together, this seems to be a potential solution. I am a big advocate of Asterisk myself. On 8/17/06, Ralph Fowler wrote: There is an add in that makes Asterisk a repeater controller and linking system. -----Original Message----- From: ham-80211-bounces at lists.tapr.org [mailto:ham-80211-bounces at lists.tapr.org] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 5:50 PM To: ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org Subject: [Ham-80211] Interesting use A few locals have been laying with a derivative of Asterisk called Trixbox... which is basically an open source PBX . (And Trixbox is a web front end for Asterisk) I have a Zyxel wifi phone and have been looking into possible two-way radio integration: http://www.allstarlink.org/ And if nothing else, since that route seems expensive, a simple FXS interface to an under used autopatch could be interesting. Asterisk is some very powerful stuff, perfect anyone who is familiar with Linux and likes to tinker. What's neat is when you add a WiFi phone to the mix, it's has the potential as 2.4 GHz digital voice ham radio. _______________________________________________ ham-80211 mailing list ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.tapr.org/pipermail/ham-80211/attachments/20060818/2e9dad05/attachment.htm