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[Ham-80211] Re: High power 2.4 GHz rules change

Thu May 18 15:07:03 UTC 2006

You have amateur radio using 420-450 MHz in the most populated areas of the

You have the most individuals using 802.11b/g in the most populated areas of
the U.S.

FYI amateur radio IS really a secondary user in the 420-450 MHz band as the
military can and does use it.

Also, there are many linked repeater systems across the U.S. that use
frequencies in the 420-440 MHz band.  These are recognized by DHS and FEMA
as frequencies used in prime emergency and disaster relief communications.

The solution to the WISP problem and the entire wireless broadband access is
the governments failing to provided a large protected frequency band for
such purpose...that is IF they do mean for WISP activity to be a primary
distributor of broadband Internet access.


-----Original Message-----
From: ham-80211-bounces at lists.tapr.org
[mailto:ham-80211-bounces at lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of jeff at aerodata.net
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:36 AM
To: TAPR Mailing List for Ham Radio Use of 802.11
Subject: Re: [Ham-80211] Re: High power 2.4 GHz rules change

> Jeff,
>     What rock have you been hiding under? The 420 to 450 mhz band is the
> second most used band in amateur radio. Get real.
> Al, K9SI

I am getting real. I stated that over the majority of the landmass of the
U.S., most of the time, the 440 band is as dead as a doornail. The fact
that is may be the second most used band does not invalidate what I said.

Look at it another way, you have a 30mhz wide band. Add up the bandwidth
of the repeaters (20khz) divided by their utilitzation. Then tell me how
much of the band is being used vs. just being warehoused. And do note,
most WISP's serve rural areas, so you really can't base your perception on
urban america.

In any case, I was just musing here. I would be against WISP's making a
land grab for 420-450 and I am sure they would loose, just as I am sure
they will loose the APC issue. But the difference is asking for 420-450
makes some sense from their perspective, where as the APC issue, in
reality, wouldn't buy them a thing except alot of ill-will from amateur
radio. Your going to take the gloves off, might as well make the prize

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