From kb9mwr at yahoo.com Sat Jul 12 18:39:23 2008 From: kb9mwr at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:39:23 -0500 Subject: [Ham-80211] Ubiquiti NanoStation Message-ID: <000701c8e44e$9bf97ca0$6801a8c0@HP> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:17:53 -0700 Sender: "Amateur Radio Using 802.11(x)" >From: dlj Subject: New Ubiquiti access point/bridge/CPE It can't get much cheaper than this. Ubiquiti has started shipping its "NanoStation" radios in 2.4 and 5 GHz. With the appropriate country code selected, the 5 GHz unit will cover the entire amateur allocation 5660-5925 MHz, not just the ISM/UNII frequencies. 5, 10 and 20 MHz wide channels, Atheros chipset, 400 mW radio, 802.11a protocols, in a molded weatherproof case with 13 dBi antenna, dual polarization, plus external SMA antenna connector, entirely open source firmware available in an all-in-one SDK for free which you can alter and compile yourself. With power-over- ethernet injector and 12 volt wall wart, $79 for 2.4 GHz or $89 for 5 GHz. 73 de WA6NMF http://www.ubnt.com/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- With DD-WRT v24 rapidly nearing completion we are proud to present support for all Ubiquiti devices (LS2, LS5, NS2, NS5, PS2, PS5) for the latest release candidate RC7. The associated firmware versions are part of the line of DD-WRT firmwares for professional use. Ubiquiti offers affordable yet powerful devices based on Atheros wireless technology and allows high performance long range Wireless LAN connections, especially when driven by DD-WRT. http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv3/community/developmentnews/1-common/21-dd-wrt-for-ubiquiti-devices.html From bwebster at wirelessmapping.com Sat Jul 12 18:54:15 2008 From: bwebster at wirelessmapping.com (Brian Webster) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:54:15 -0400 Subject: [Ham-80211] Ubiquiti NanoStation In-Reply-To: <000701c8e44e$9bf97ca0$6801a8c0@HP> Message-ID: Being to lazy to look it up myself, how much spectrum is in the ham bands for 5GHz that is not in the UNII or other unlicensed bands? How many 5 MHz channels will the Nano stations achieve in that same spectrum? I'd like to build a ham data network in our county but don't really want to affect the commercial WISP's if I don't have to. Thank You, Brian N2KGC -----Original Message----- From: ham-80211-bounces at lists.tapr.org [mailto:ham-80211-bounces at lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:39 PM To: ham-80211 Subject: [Ham-80211] Ubiquiti NanoStation Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:17:53 -0700 Sender: "Amateur Radio Using 802.11(x)" >From: dlj Subject: New Ubiquiti access point/bridge/CPE It can't get much cheaper than this. Ubiquiti has started shipping its "NanoStation" radios in 2.4 and 5 GHz. With the appropriate country code selected, the 5 GHz unit will cover the entire amateur allocation 5660-5925 MHz, not just the ISM/UNII frequencies. 5, 10 and 20 MHz wide channels, Atheros chipset, 400 mW radio, 802.11a protocols, in a molded weatherproof case with 13 dBi antenna, dual polarization, plus external SMA antenna connector, entirely open source firmware available in an all-in-one SDK for free which you can alter and compile yourself. With power-over- ethernet injector and 12 volt wall wart, $79 for 2.4 GHz or $89 for 5 GHz. 73 de WA6NMF http://www.ubnt.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- With DD-WRT v24 rapidly nearing completion we are proud to present support for all Ubiquiti devices (LS2, LS5, NS2, NS5, PS2, PS5) for the latest release candidate RC7. The associated firmware versions are part of the line of DD-WRT firmwares for professional use. Ubiquiti offers affordable yet powerful devices based on Atheros wireless technology and allows high performance long range Wireless LAN connections, especially when driven by DD-WRT. http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv3/community/developmentnews/1-common/21-dd-wrt- for-ubiquiti-devices.html _______________________________________________ ham-80211 mailing list ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211 From kb9mwr at yahoo.com Sat Jul 12 19:49:19 2008 From: kb9mwr at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:49:19 -0500 Subject: [Ham-80211] Ubiquiti NanoStation Message-ID: <000901c8e458$61acd1f0$6801a8c0@HP> http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/wireless/allocations.html 802.11a channels 132-184 are in the ham overlap nearest I can determine. Channels 132-140 are totally unshared with UNII and ISM allocations as thats typically a European allocation that happens to overlap our allocation. From bob at sinister.com Sat Jul 12 20:02:02 2008 From: bob at sinister.com (Bob Keyes) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ham-80211] Ubiquiti NanoStation In-Reply-To: <000701c8e44e$9bf97ca0$6801a8c0@HP> References: <000701c8e44e$9bf97ca0$6801a8c0@HP> Message-ID: These are an excellent value. THey lack great documentation. But I might be able to remedy that - There's a deal I am working on to write their wiki. I'll make sure I include a ham section! 73, Bob N1YRK On Sat, 12 Jul 2008, Steve wrote: > Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:17:53 -0700 > Sender: "Amateur Radio Using 802.11(x)" > > >From: dlj > Subject: New Ubiquiti access point/bridge/CPE > > It can't get much cheaper than this. Ubiquiti has started shipping its > "NanoStation" radios in 2.4 and > 5 GHz. With the appropriate country code selected, the 5 GHz unit will > cover the entire amateur > allocation 5660-5925 MHz, not just the ISM/UNII frequencies. 5, 10 and > 20 MHz wide channels, > Atheros chipset, 400 mW radio, 802.11a protocols, in a molded > weatherproof case with 13 dBi > antenna, dual polarization, plus external SMA antenna connector, > entirely open source firmware > available in an all-in-one SDK for free which you can alter and compile > yourself. With power-over- > ethernet injector and 12 volt wall wart, $79 for 2.4 GHz or $89 for 5 GHz. > > 73 de WA6NMF > > http://www.ubnt.com/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > With DD-WRT v24 rapidly nearing completion we are proud to present support > for all Ubiquiti devices (LS2, LS5, NS2, NS5, PS2, PS5) for the latest > release candidate RC7. The associated firmware versions are part of the line > of DD-WRT firmwares for professional use. Ubiquiti offers affordable yet > powerful devices based on Atheros wireless technology and allows high > performance long range Wireless LAN connections, especially when driven by > DD-WRT. > > http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv3/community/developmentnews/1-common/21-dd-wrt-for-ubiquiti-devices.html > > > _______________________________________________ > ham-80211 mailing list > ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org > https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211 > > From dlj at bach.altaphon.com Sat Jul 12 21:49:37 2008 From: dlj at bach.altaphon.com (David Josephson) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:49:37 -0700 Subject: [Ham-80211] Ubiquiti NanoStation In-Reply-To: <000901c8e458$61acd1f0$6801a8c0@HP> References: <000901c8e458$61acd1f0$6801a8c0@HP> Message-ID: <487926F1.6050507@altaphon.com> Steve wrote: > http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/wireless/allocations.html > > 802.11a channels 132-184 are in the ham overlap nearest I can determine. > > > Channels 132-140 are totally unshared with UNII and ISM allocations as thats > typically a European allocation that happens to overlap our allocation. > Not anymore - they are part of the new UNII band 5470-5725, which is limited to the same power as in the 5250-5350 (UNII-2), that's not much, and they have to have dynamic frequency selection (radar avoidance) which makes the WISPs not want to use the band for outdoor links. 5850-5925 is shared with the Dedicated Short Range Communications (licensed, but uncoordinated) service but nothing UNII/ISM. From n0fpf at att.net Sat Jul 12 22:37:41 2008 From: n0fpf at att.net (Steve) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:37:41 -0700 Subject: [Ham-80211] Ubiquiti NanoStation Message-ID: The XR3 is in 3 Ghz... If Ubiquiti will sell hams the 3 Ghz version, then we have a nice clean band... no worries..just fun ! Steve N0FPF - Seattle At 02:49 PM 7/12/2008, you wrote: >Steve wrote: > > http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/wireless/allocations.html > > > > 802.11a channels 132-184 are in the ham overlap nearest I can determine. > > > > > > Channels 132-140 are totally unshared with UNII and ISM > allocations as thats > > typically a European allocation that happens to overlap our allocation. > > >Not anymore - they are part of the new UNII band 5470-5725, which is >limited to the same power as in the 5250-5350 (UNII-2), that's not much, >and they have to have dynamic frequency selection (radar avoidance) >which makes the WISPs not want to use the band for outdoor links. > >5850-5925 is shared with the Dedicated Short Range Communications >(licensed, but uncoordinated) service but nothing UNII/ISM. > >_______________________________________________ >ham-80211 mailing list >ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org >https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211 From dlj at bach.altaphon.com Sat Jul 12 23:29:45 2008 From: dlj at bach.altaphon.com (David Josephson) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:29:45 -0700 Subject: [Ham-80211] Ubiquiti NanoStation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48793E69.1010208@altaphon.com> Steve wrote: > The XR3 is in 3 Ghz... If Ubiquiti will sell hams the 3 Ghz version, > then we have a nice clean band... no worries..just fun ! > > Steve N0FPF - Seattle > > Ubiquiti sells only to dealers. Streakwave in San Jose (talk to their CEO Carl Moberg) will give a discount for ham volume purchases. There is one available from 3300-300 MHz. 73 de WA6NMF > At 02:49 PM 7/12/2008, you wrote: > > >> Steve wrote: >> >>> http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/wireless/allocations.html >>> >>> 802.11a channels 132-184 are in the ham overlap nearest I can determine. >>> >>> >>> Channels 132-140 are totally unshared with UNII and ISM >>> >> allocations as thats >> >>> typically a European allocation that happens to overlap our allocation. >>> >>> >> Not anymore - they are part of the new UNII band 5470-5725, which is >> limited to the same power as in the 5250-5350 (UNII-2), that's not much, >> and they have to have dynamic frequency selection (radar avoidance) >> which makes the WISPs not want to use the band for outdoor links. >> >> 5850-5925 is shared with the Dedicated Short Range Communications >> (licensed, but uncoordinated) service but nothing UNII/ISM. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ham-80211 mailing list >> ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org >> https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211 >> > > > _______________________________________________ > ham-80211 mailing list > ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org > https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211 > From n0fpf at att.net Sat Jul 12 23:39:41 2008 From: n0fpf at att.net (Steve) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:39:41 -0700 Subject: [Ham-80211] Ubiquiti NanoStation In-Reply-To: <48793E69.1010208@altaphon.com> References: <48793E69.1010208@altaphon.com> Message-ID: Do you know of anyone using them? Any systems up and running? Thanks! Steve N0FPF - Seattle At 04:29 PM 7/12/2008, you wrote: >Steve wrote: > > The XR3 is in 3 Ghz... If Ubiquiti will sell hams the 3 Ghz version, > > then we have a nice clean band... no worries..just fun ! > > > > Steve N0FPF - Seattle > > > > >Ubiquiti sells only to dealers. Streakwave in San Jose (talk to their >CEO Carl Moberg) will give a discount for ham volume purchases. There is >one available from 3300-300 MHz. > >73 > >de WA6NMF > > At 02:49 PM 7/12/2008, you wrote: > > > > > >> Steve wrote: > >> > >>> http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/wireless/allocations.html > >>> > >>> 802.11a channels 132-184 are in the ham overlap nearest I can determine. > >>> > >>> > >>> Channels 132-140 are totally unshared with UNII and ISM > >>> > >> allocations as thats > >> > >>> typically a European allocation that happens to overlap our allocation. > >>> > >>> > >> Not anymore - they are part of the new UNII band 5470-5725, which is > >> limited to the same power as in the 5250-5350 (UNII-2), that's not much, > >> and they have to have dynamic frequency selection (radar avoidance) > >> which makes the WISPs not want to use the band for outdoor links. > >> > >> 5850-5925 is shared with the Dedicated Short Range Communications > >> (licensed, but uncoordinated) service but nothing UNII/ISM. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> ham-80211 mailing list > >> ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org > >> https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211 > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ham-80211 mailing list > > ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org > > https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211 > > > > >_______________________________________________ >ham-80211 mailing list >ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org >https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211 From dlj at bach.altaphon.com Sun Jul 13 00:16:08 2008 From: dlj at bach.altaphon.com (David Josephson) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:16:08 -0700 Subject: [Ham-80211] Ubiquiti NanoStation In-Reply-To: References: <48793E69.1010208@altaphon.com> Message-ID: <48794948.1040105@altaphon.com> Not too far from you, there is a WISP in Enumclaw preparing to roll out 3.65 GHz using Ubiquiti boards (slightly different version, 3500-3700). Talk to Chuck Bender at Skynet Broadband, 360-802-6657. They are a tenant at our site east of there (www.altaphon.com/ECLW), which just happens to be about the only site in the area that's outside of the protected zones from the earth stations in WA. > Do you know of anyone using them? Any systems up and running? > > Thanks! > > Steve N0FPF - Seattle > > > At 04:29 PM 7/12/2008, you wrote: > > >> Steve wrote: >> >>> The XR3 is in 3 Ghz... If Ubiquiti will sell hams the 3 Ghz version, >>> then we have a nice clean band... no worries..just fun ! >>> >>> Steve N0FPF - Seattle >>> >>> From n0fpf at att.net Sun Jul 13 05:41:16 2008 From: n0fpf at att.net (Steve) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:41:16 -0700 Subject: [Ham-80211] Ubiquiti NanoStation Message-ID: I was thinking Hams rather than WISP's..but then again...any info is good. I know the site. Thanks! At 05:16 PM 7/12/2008, you wrote: >Not too far from you, there is a WISP in Enumclaw preparing to roll out >3.65 GHz using Ubiquiti boards (slightly different version, 3500-3700). >Talk to Chuck Bender at Skynet Broadband, 360-802-6657. They are a >tenant at our site east of there (www.altaphon.com/ECLW), which just >happens to be about the only site in the area that's outside of the >protected zones from the earth stations in WA. > > Do you know of anyone using them? Any systems up and running? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Steve N0FPF - Seattle > > > > > > At 04:29 PM 7/12/2008, you wrote: > > > > > >> Steve wrote: > >> > >>> The XR3 is in 3 Ghz... If Ubiquiti will sell hams the 3 Ghz version, > >>> then we have a nice clean band... no worries..just fun ! > >>> > >>> Steve N0FPF - Seattle > >>> > >>> > > >_______________________________________________ >ham-80211 mailing list >ham-80211 at lists.tapr.org >https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211 From esj at harvee.org Mon Jul 14 22:30:58 2008 From: esj at harvee.org (Eric S. Johansson) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:30:58 -0400 Subject: [Ham-80211] old school wifi Message-ID: <487BD3A2.7050709@harvee.org> cleaning out my basement I found: 1 aironet AP3000-E 2.4 GHz ethernet access point 2 PCMCIA cards with internal antenna (arlan 3000) 2 PCMCIA cards with external antenna on 18 inch cable (arlan 690-2400) Looks like this bunch of toys are frequency hoppers. If anybody can use them, that would be wonderful. I would hate to throw this stuff out. All I ask for is cost of postage. If you want to give a little extra like the cost of a pizza or a reasonable Chinese meal[1], that would be nice too. ---eric ka1eec [1] I should warn you that I have a really good nose for good restaurants. If you would like an amusing dining experience, turn me loose like a hound on the trail of a convict and you will have an interesting meal. I won't guarantee good. About 20% of the time I bomb but it least it will be interesting. ask me about Brazilian BBQ in Cambridge sometime. From dyoung at pobox.com Mon Jul 14 22:46:13 2008 From: dyoung at pobox.com (David Young) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:46:13 -0500 Subject: [Ham-80211] old school wifi In-Reply-To: <487BD3A2.7050709@harvee.org> References: <487BD3A2.7050709@harvee.org> Message-ID: <20080714224613.GP26642@che.ojctech.com> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 06:30:58PM -0400, Eric S. Johansson wrote: > cleaning out my basement I found: > > 1 aironet AP3000-E 2.4 GHz ethernet access point > 2 PCMCIA cards with internal antenna (arlan 3000) > 2 PCMCIA cards with external antenna on 18 inch cable (arlan 690-2400) > > Looks like this bunch of toys are frequency hoppers. If anybody can use them, > that would be wonderful. I would hate to throw this stuff out. All I ask for > is cost of postage. If you want to give a little extra like the cost of a > pizza or a reasonable Chinese meal[1], that would be nice too. I may be able to use these. What is the WLAN chipset? Dave -- David Young OJC Technologies dyoung at ojctech.com Urbana, IL * (217) 278-3933 ext 24 From esj at harvee.org Mon Jul 14 23:05:19 2008 From: esj at harvee.org (Eric S. Johansson) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:05:19 -0400 Subject: [Ham-80211] old school wifi In-Reply-To: <20080714224613.GP26642@che.ojctech.com> References: <487BD3A2.7050709@harvee.org> <20080714224613.GP26642@che.ojctech.com> Message-ID: <487BDBAF.5000309@harvee.org> David Young wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 06:30:58PM -0400, Eric S. Johansson wrote: >> cleaning out my basement I found: >> >> 1 aironet AP3000-E 2.4 GHz ethernet access point >> 2 PCMCIA cards with internal antenna (arlan 3000) >> 2 PCMCIA cards with external antenna on 18 inch cable (arlan 690-2400) >> >> Looks like this bunch of toys are frequency hoppers. If anybody can use them, >> that would be wonderful. I would hate to throw this stuff out. All I ask for >> is cost of postage. If you want to give a little extra like the cost of a >> pizza or a reasonable Chinese meal[1], that would be nice too. > > I may be able to use these. What is the WLAN chipset? no idea. I can ship them to you in the next day or two. you can pay me after you get them and try them out. worst case is you are out postage for something that does not suit your needs. My wife delivered me another box from the basement. spring cleaning came a little late this year and toxic waste disposal has a volume discount. I will never accept another computer from a friend again.... power supplies rmx 05-a 5v at 10a 2 cosel uaw250s-24n 24v 11 amp again cost of shipping.