[Ham-80211] Providing Long-range Wifi
Chriswlan2 chriswlan2 at linnixislands.comMon Aug 27 19:20:49 UTC 2012
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My 2cts: 1-Splitting off a minor fraction of the effort on a "secondary" leg option would tremendously increase the success rate, while lowering frustrations: have the 24dB portable site fitted with another antenna to "shoot back" down a great LOS second link into the target, when it is shaded out by obstructions on the 90ft tower first link. Many times whenever a direct link has any doubt with it before starting out, it will be much faster, as well as more sffective, to drive straight to an intermediary clear location, and do a 2 leg relay that have great LOSs. 2-I did a 3 mile link with good result, with 20dB panels, although there was an obstructing hill perhaps 1/3 1/4 the way on the path. But it was a smooth hill top and "only" perhaps 15ft "too high". Obstructions that are toward the middle of the path are definately less trouble; important to keep in mind. 3-I have several links across a flat treed atoll, around 7 miles: clean "beach to beach" LOS across the lagoon, just grazing the mid point sea level, with panels on a single piece of pipe, is quite strong, but trying to get "inland" from there is extremely tricky. Doing a WDS relay from an existing nearby "beach" station is so much more effective. With lots of luck, hours of GPS work, and walking on roof with a test panel, I once succeeded in feeding internet directly to a "cafe", accross the lagoon and then on through the ending half a mile of intermittent coconut plantation; but in this special instance there was definately a somewhat vague but helpful notch in the tree line, as seen from the Internet cafe roof. 4-In 3 above, getting UP into the notch, getting a taller pole was helpful; but "laterally" was quite pointy. But usually I spend a few hours with a probing portable telescopic pole, mapping signal strength, to find the spot, usually only a few feet in diameter, with the strongest (and hopefully stable in varying wind directions) signal, and in my atoll situation, "getting higher", mostly never works. Instead if I have only a very short distance of coconut trees to go through, at the end of the path, I end up with a panel at 8 to 15ft ONLY, to go over small brush and small buildings, and UNDER the coconut crowns. Works fine if I can see through the TRUNKS. Only a few (moving) coconut fronds, close in, play hell with my links. 5-Ubiquiti 2.4 radios have the option of setting channels 2 MHz off, "in between", but in busy area probably wouldn't help. But another very effective step in keeping non-Hams out. 6-Ubiquity affordable radios are really flexible: with the export f/w, one can choose all kinds of freq above and below the 2.4 "wifi". (don't have US ham allocations in mind...). The "Bullet High Power, screws direct on to the panel N jack. YMMV Cheers Christian WO1V Ralph wrote: > We may have "priority", but in reality it is just on paper. > Getting the users already there to shut down or move would pretty > much be impossible. > You should look at another band besides 2.4 > > Ralph N4NEQ > > -----Original Message----- > From: ham-80211-bounces at tapr.org [mailto:ham-80211-bounces at tapr.org] > On Behalf Of Robert Dixon > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 11:23 AM > To: ham-80211 at tapr.org > Subject: [Ham-80211] Providing Long-range Wifi > > I am working with our local EMA to be able to provide wifi internet > access at disaster scenes and special events in our county. I have > read articles where people have achieved long distances over line of > sight paths. But in our case, line of sight may not always be > possible, due to rolling terrain, trees, buildings etc. I have a 29 > db gain dish on my tower at 90 feet. The idea is to aim it at the > required location, and use a portable gain antenna at the other end > (maybe 24 db at 40 feet) for a point-to-point link, and then relaunch > wifi locally for on-the scene laptops etc. We plan to experiment > with this as soon as we have the necessary equipment on hand. > > The thought is to use wifi channel 1 or 2, as that is where hams are > priority users in the frequency allocations. We would like to use as > much power as possible, but the cost of commercial units may limit > that to a watt or so. 25 miles would be adequate. > > Also wondering how hams typically send their callsign ID for wifi > applications. > > Suggestions and comments would be most welcome. > > Bob W8ERD > Delaware County, Ohio > _______________________________________________ > ham-80211 mailing list > ham-80211 at tapr.org > https://www.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211 > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5227 - Release Date: > 08/27/12 > > > > _______________________________________________ > ham-80211 mailing list > ham-80211 at tapr.org > https://www.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211
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