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[Ham-80211] Providing Long-range Wifi

Robert Dixon w8erdbob at gmail.com
Tue Aug 28 14:51:14 UTC 2012

Christian - Thanks for the good comments.  Having the capability for an intermediate relay point is a good technique to have in our bag of tricks.

The Ubiquity Bullet sounds wonderful, as it would allow operation just below the wifi band, hence avoiding all the QRM mentioned by others, yet still allowing use of inexpensive wifi antennas.  I see they are for sale new on ebay, including both USA and export models.  Presumably one would buy an export model, so it would go outside the wifi band?  Is the included firmware all one needs, and does it operate thru the ethernet cable to the PC?  Or is separate PC software needed?  I looked at the Ubiquity web site but didn't find it completely clear.


On Aug 27, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Chriswlan2 wrote:

> My 2cts:
> 1-Splitting off a minor fraction of the effort on a "secondary" leg option
> would tremendously increase the success rate, while lowering frustrations:
> have the 24dB portable site fitted with another antenna to "shoot back" down
> a great LOS second link into the target, when it is shaded out by
> obstructions on the 90ft tower first link. Many times whenever a direct link
> has any doubt with it before starting out, it will be much faster, as well
> as more sffective, to drive straight to an intermediary clear location, and
> do a 2 leg relay that have great LOSs.
> 2-I did a 3 mile link with good result, with 20dB panels, although there was
> an obstructing hill perhaps 1/3 1/4 the way on the path. But it was a smooth
> hill top and "only" perhaps 15ft "too high". Obstructions that are toward
> the middle of the path are definately less trouble; important to keep in
> mind.
> 3-I have several links across a flat treed atoll, around 7 miles: clean
> "beach to beach" LOS across the lagoon, just grazing the mid point sea
> level,  with panels on a single piece of pipe, is quite strong, but trying
> to get "inland" from there is extremely tricky. Doing a WDS relay from an
> existing nearby "beach" station is so much more effective. With lots of
> luck, hours of GPS work, and walking on roof with a test panel, I once
> succeeded in feeding internet directly to a "cafe", accross the lagoon and
> then on through the ending half a mile of intermittent coconut plantation;
> but in this special instance there was definately a somewhat vague but
> helpful notch in the tree line, as seen from the Internet cafe roof.
> 4-In 3 above, getting UP into the notch, getting a taller pole was helpful;
> but "laterally" was quite pointy.  But usually I spend a few hours with a
> probing portable telescopic pole, mapping signal strength, to find the spot,
> usually only a few feet in diameter, with the strongest (and hopefully
> stable in varying wind directions) signal, and in my atoll situation,
> "getting higher", mostly never works. Instead if I have only a very short
> distance of coconut trees to go through, at the end of the path, I end up
> with a panel at 8 to 15ft ONLY, to go over small brush and small buildings,
> and UNDER the coconut crowns. Works fine if I can see through the TRUNKS.
> Only a few (moving) coconut fronds, close in, play hell with my links.
> 5-Ubiquiti 2.4 radios have the option of setting channels 2 MHz off, "in
> between", but in busy area probably wouldn't help. But another very
> effective step in keeping non-Hams out.
> 6-Ubiquity affordable radios are really flexible: with the export f/w, one
> can choose all kinds of freq above and below the 2.4 "wifi". (don't have US
> ham allocations in mind...). The "Bullet High Power, screws direct on to the
> panel N jack.
> Cheers
> Christian
> WO1V

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