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[Ham-80211] Providing Long-range Wifi

Ralph ralphlists at bsrg.org
Tue Aug 28 14:57:55 UTC 2012

Who is selling the export models? Exact seller. Please.

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From: ham-80211-bounces at tapr.org [mailto:ham-80211-bounces at tapr.org] On
Behalf Of Robert Dixon
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:51 AM
To: Chriswlan2; TAPR Mailing List for Ham Radio Use of 802.11
Subject: Re: [Ham-80211] Providing Long-range Wifi

Christian - Thanks for the good comments.  Having the capability for an
intermediate relay point is a good technique to have in our bag of tricks.

The Ubiquity Bullet sounds wonderful, as it would allow operation just below
the wifi band, hence avoiding all the QRM mentioned by others, yet still
allowing use of inexpensive wifi antennas.  I see they are for sale new on
ebay, including both USA and export models.  Presumably one would buy an
export model, so it would go outside the wifi band?  Is the included
firmware all one needs, and does it operate thru the ethernet cable to the
PC?  Or is separate PC software needed?  I looked at the Ubiquity web site
but didn't find it completely clear.


On Aug 27, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Chriswlan2 wrote:

> My 2cts:
> 1-Splitting off a minor fraction of the effort on a "secondary" leg 
> option would tremendously increase the success rate, while lowering
> have the 24dB portable site fitted with another antenna to "shoot 
> back" down a great LOS second link into the target, when it is shaded 
> out by obstructions on the 90ft tower first link. Many times whenever 
> a direct link has any doubt with it before starting out, it will be 
> much faster, as well as more sffective, to drive straight to an 
> intermediary clear location, and do a 2 leg relay that have great LOSs.
> 2-I did a 3 mile link with good result, with 20dB panels, although 
> there was an obstructing hill perhaps 1/3 1/4 the way on the path. But 
> it was a smooth hill top and "only" perhaps 15ft "too high". 
> Obstructions that are toward the middle of the path are definately 
> less trouble; important to keep in mind.
> 3-I have several links across a flat treed atoll, around 7 miles: 
> clean "beach to beach" LOS across the lagoon, just grazing the mid 
> point sea level,  with panels on a single piece of pipe, is quite 
> strong, but trying to get "inland" from there is extremely tricky. 
> Doing a WDS relay from an existing nearby "beach" station is so much 
> more effective. With lots of luck, hours of GPS work, and walking on 
> roof with a test panel, I once succeeded in feeding internet directly 
> to a "cafe", accross the lagoon and then on through the ending half a 
> mile of intermittent coconut plantation; but in this special instance 
> there was definately a somewhat vague but helpful notch in the tree line,
as seen from the Internet cafe roof.
> 4-In 3 above, getting UP into the notch, getting a taller pole was 
> helpful; but "laterally" was quite pointy.  But usually I spend a few 
> hours with a probing portable telescopic pole, mapping signal 
> strength, to find the spot, usually only a few feet in diameter, with 
> the strongest (and hopefully stable in varying wind directions) 
> signal, and in my atoll situation, "getting higher", mostly never 
> works. Instead if I have only a very short distance of coconut trees 
> to go through, at the end of the path, I end up with a panel at 8 to 
> 15ft ONLY, to go over small brush and small buildings, and UNDER the
coconut crowns. Works fine if I can see through the TRUNKS.
> Only a few (moving) coconut fronds, close in, play hell with my links.
> 5-Ubiquiti 2.4 radios have the option of setting channels 2 MHz off, 
> "in between", but in busy area probably wouldn't help. But another 
> very effective step in keeping non-Hams out.
> 6-Ubiquity affordable radios are really flexible: with the export f/w, 
> one can choose all kinds of freq above and below the 2.4 "wifi". 
> (don't have US ham allocations in mind...). The "Bullet High Power, 
> screws direct on to the panel N jack.
> Cheers
> Christian
> WO1V

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